SPEAKER_03: Radio, Al-An-Sar, podcasts. Welcome back to Urban Women, yet it is 1043 on this wonderful, cool Tuesday morning. It’s now time for our Chilina baby segment. Remember, Chilina baby is the ultimate store for all your baby car seats, carts, travel systems and baby accessories. Check out the latest range of baby toys by visiting www.chilina.co.ca or visit their store at Gaytoy-Umschlangar Shopping Centre. Chilina baby, your premium baby store. Now, you know, when it’s time to give birth, we wonder. I think everybody would love natural labor. And then there’s so many different options and things like that. But I think it’s important to get some tips. And we now join in the studio by Dula Samaya Karim from Mother’s Inchu Wishing, who’s here to share with us some awesome tips for labor or natural birth, shall we say. Asalaamu alaykum and welcome back, Samaya. Alaykum, wasalaamu alaykum. I have my voice back this week. I was about to comment and you beat me there. So glad to hear it. So now, you know, Samaya, I think it’s a big one, especially for those that are getting really. And I don’t think if it really matters whether it’s your first baby or second baby, because we’ve set this before and I teach one. It’s just so different. It is. So why would you say how do moms prepare for natural birth?
SPEAKER_04: Okay. Do we prepare? Absolutely. Same way when you get married. Yeah, you have a menu, you have a decor, you have a hole. Nobody just goes in there like, hey, your mind runs. What you have left over for me for my wedding, you know what? Yeah. The same way you prepare for your wedding. You prepare for everything else in your life. You should be preparing for your birth. So first things first. People think you just go with the flow. It’s going to happen. And you have to prepare your mind. You would know about how important it is to prepare mentally for anything. And we spoke about how birth is the most athletic event of your life. So you can go and run the marathon without preparing for it, months in advance. The same way you have to prepare for birth. So like in our other, you know, segment, we spoke about exercising. Exercising is super important during pregnancy because of how it helps you during labor and birth. So exercising, attending the correct antenatal classes. Like the breathing that I teach in my antenatal classes are specific for labor. Right. And you can’t do them once off during the class and expect to use it on the day you give birth. They are intervals, they’re ways to practice it, they’re certain interventions and things that come into play so that it becomes effective. Because ultimately when you do breathing correctly, you’re tricking the brain. It’s like how when you meditate and you switch up completely, it’s basically control of your mind. Absolutely. So yes, those type of things help in preparation for normal birth.
SPEAKER_03: I have to say it makes a big difference. Like I mentioned before, I did go for an antenatal and they showed me way to push. Yes. Made a big difference because you save on so much of energy and I’ve been using all the muscle to make me tell me to use that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04: So we always say, I always say to my clients and my ladies, if I hear you screaming when you’re pushing, you’re pushing from the wrong place. I should not hear you scream. Absolutely. You’ll have the most you’re going to do is not have a voice the next day.
SPEAKER_03: Absolutely. And the baby will still be waiting there. Oh yeah. Yeah. For sure. I remember and then the doctor that delivered my baby said, you want me to give birth. That’s how effective it was. You wanted it. So come here, watch your mom’s not do then during labor.
SPEAKER_04: So I tell my mom’s when you learn that you are in labor, you should sleep immediately. Okay. Okay. So if I, for example, go for a hospital birth. The first thing that I do when I enter the room is I switch off the lights. Yeah. And I close up the curtain if it’s not a private ward because nobody is going to dilate when they feel like they are being watched over number one and do not feel like they in their own space. Okay. Right. So you need to feel safe. Okay. Like if you use an animal as an example, if there’s an animal giving birth somewhere in the woods, I don’t know which woods we have. But anyway, and you see a lion or leopard, you know, and they feel unsafe. They, everything just stops. Yes. Fight of light, right? Right. The same thing happens in the human body. If she feels intimidated, if she feels fearful, if she feels like she’s been watched, she’s not going to dilate. Yes. Right. And secondly, the reason I turn the lights off is because we need melatonin. Yeah. So melatonin is the hormone that’s responsible for sleep and it’s only released in the dark. Yes. Um, it works with oxytocin to produce contractions. Okay. So if I have bright lights in my face as we, that’s what happens in hospitals, you have a big light in your face, you have a clock in front of you. It’s so clinical that it’s not conducive to dilating your factor. So we basically switch off lights and go to sleep so we can have some melatonin after all of that. Now you’re obviously not going to be able to go into deep sleep because there’s so much going on, but we just need the hormonal release. And also we don’t know how long labor is going to be. So you need the energy to be able to push out your baby. Correct. So after that, you should not be lying on your back number one. You should not be laboring in the bed. We make use of gravity completely because gravity allows for baby to come down. Yes. So there are certain exercises that we do during labor like squatting and lunging and using the Pilates or the Birth Ball to bring that baby down and allowing it to engage. And then from six months, if you’re doing a pregnancy exercise with me, we start working on engaging that baby. Wonderful. That’s a no-lung, sorry. No lying on your back.
SPEAKER_03: No lying on your back. Okay. There we go. Keep on moving so to say. Yeah, I remember those days. Now you mentioned breathing and as I mentioned, also I learned how to do it. What types of breathing should mom do if you could share with some of them?
SPEAKER_04: So it’s very difficult to do this over here. Absolutely. All right.
SPEAKER_03: But I mean, you have to get very nice. He’s a great absolute.
SPEAKER_04: So the most basic type of breathing is cholotropic breathing. It’s the type of breathing that you do when you go for an exercise class. In through your nose, out through your mouth. Right. But breathing for labor is in through your nose, whole for at least five seconds and a long outward breath. Okay.
SPEAKER_02: Right.
SPEAKER_04: So your outward breath needs to be longer than your inward breath. That’s just one type. Okay. The other types I can’t exactly explain over the air. And also, as part of my breathing class that I do with my ladies for labor.
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that makes absolute sense. But the first one is basically like the triangular breathing, but the longer one is the upper right. So when would you say then, moms should push like the babies ready to come out, you’re really fully dilated, when should they?
SPEAKER_04: Okay. So nobody can tell them when to push. Yeah. She knows when to push. Right. Mother’s in tuition. Yeah. Allah makes it such that when your body is ready, it will do what it needs to do. Your baby can actually deliver itself without your help. Look at that. Okay. So we push with the contraction so that you have the help of the contraction and you pushing at the same time to make it easier. But yeah, you know, if we just need to look back at the translation of Surah Maria, she was leaning against the date pump. She was not lying on her back with her legs in, you know, stir-ups. Yes. She was in upright position, making use of gravity leaning against the date pump. She was eating root updates. She was drinking some water. Yeah. And she pushed her baby out in an upright position.
SPEAKER_03: So much of lessons or for us. Yes. Because they’re not just stories, they’re handling that. And then, you know, as you said, Allah, Surah Maria has designed her body so amazingly that when you work so well with the contractions that helps you. And I just think of those women that are actually up to be induced. Because I know they are some that are up to us. Because they find it’s too painful. Right. And I just think that how would you do that?
SPEAKER_04: The inductions are actually more painful than labor happening on its own. And obviously, there are times where you have to have an induction and it’s necessary. But, you know, if you look at a fruit on a tree, you can’t plug it before it’s actually ripe. It will be very difficult. The same way with a baby that’s not ready to be born, it’s going to be harder. So always just think about that green mango on the tree. Ever tried picking a green mango off which she has a child, it was very difficult. Why is it not coming off the tree? But when that mango is ripe, it’s so easy. Even like my blueberries, you just have to flick it and when it’s ripe, it comes off the tree. But try taking it off before that.
SPEAKER_03: Wow. So you have blueberries. Nice. Great for us the next time you have it.
SPEAKER_04: Well, it’s fruiting at the moment. So we’re waiting. You can’t plug it, eh? I roll. I see it and I roll it. I’m like, OK, you’re not ready.
SPEAKER_03: Like the tooth. You know how to pick up this. Yes. Exactly. And it’s ringing. Just wait for it. So, OK. I know you said mum should number one. Well, would you advise? Like, just say a mother is cute and thinks, OK, I think I can just push now. Yes. Is there any time that you would say don’t push?
SPEAKER_04: So usually your midwife or your doctor can see that you’re tearing. Right. And they obviously need to do something in between and they tell you don’t push. Now, telling a mum that has the urge to push not to push is very difficult. And the only way that you cannot push is if you do what we call candle week blowing. OK. So if you pretend that you have a candle in front of you and you’re blowing it off.
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
SPEAKER_04: That’s the only way because you’re the only way you can’t push is if your mouth is open. Literally. OK. So we always say that the pelvic floor is linked to your jaw. Yeah. Right. Your cervix is linked to your jaw. Yeah. So you tighten your cervix by tightening your jaw. And if you’re making yourself really tight during labor and you’re clenching your jaw. You’re making your cervix close and it’s not helping you in any way. Look at that.
SPEAKER_03: It’s so I love how the body works. Everything is so interlinked and intertwined. And you know when you talk now certain things like so much as me which I am more fascinating. Awesome. It’s always such a pleasure having you on urban women. Always fun being here. Thank you so much for your time. Your take on message for our urban women listeners.
SPEAKER_04: Please do you exercise?
SPEAKER_03: I’ve started. Our last conversation. You know I told you I’m like sort of wet and I mentioned in one of the days as well about our chat. Yes. And I said no I have to start. Yes. I’m back up. I’m like sort of wet or fizzing but it’s not going to die off this time.
SPEAKER_04: Just add more fizz to it all the time. Keep up that motivation.
None: Yes.
SPEAKER_04: So just do exercise. Listen to your body. We tell moms trust your intuition because mother’s intuition isn’t something that you can doubt. It’s a panel. And moms feel like something’s wrong with their baby. They generally is something wrong. They can go to the hospital and feel like I don’t know why I’m here. But there’s a reason and they usually find why you actually hear it because something clicked inside of you and said I need to be here. So always trust that to your exercise and each other our next segment is going to be preparing for Cesarean but I don’t want the season moms to feel like they’ve been left out. But yes next session that’s what we’re talking about.
SPEAKER_03: There we go. We look forward to it. Thank you so much. Sumeya Karim Dula from Mother’s Intuition. Look forward to the next segment. And until then take care of the babies. I know you love it. We can feel the passion coming through. Asalaamu Alaikum. Rahmat Salahi wa Baraka.
SPEAKER_04: Waalikum wa Salam.
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